Lee Strobel begins the last interview with J. P. Moreland with a challenge to provide five pieces of circumstantial evidence, about the Resurrection of Christ, that are not in dispute by anybody.

"Exhibit 1" is about the disciples being willing to die for their beliefs, even though they started out discouraged and depressed after Jesus was crucified (anyone crucified was supposed to be cursed by God, and the Messiah was not supposed to suffer death). Lee objects, saying that Muslims and Mormons, and others, have also been willing to die for their faith. But think about the difference: Muslims are going by something they’ve been told, which they believe sincerely; the disciples were going on something they actually witnessed. They had nothing to gain and a lot to lose–why would they say they’d seen, and touched… if they hadn’t really.

"Exhibit 2" is the conversion of skeptics, people who started out dead-set against Christianity: for example, James the brother of Jesus, and Saul of Tarsus. Of course, Moreland has to point to credible evidence that James really was a skeptic, which he does. Part of this: it would be highly embarrassing for a rabbi to have a family member who didn’t accept him–the gospel writers would have no motive for fabricating his skepticism. James was an unbeliever until Jesus appeared to him resurrected. Saul aka Paul, was a Pharisee who fervently persecuted the Christians, until Jesus appeared to him… then everything changed!

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